Winter warmth breaks all records »
Posted by: Aidenag 1 year, 5 months agoWinter in the northern hemisphere this year has been the warmest since records began more than 125 years ago, The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says. The combined land and ocean surface temperature from December to February was 0.72C (1.3F) above average.
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Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago
Read the entire article and the BBC(not my) headline makes sense...
" The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the sixth warmest on record in February, but a record warm January helped push the winter (December-February) to its highest value since records began in 1880"
Global warming is exactly that, Global....
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whatever20001 year, 5 months ago
The problem with these studies is that they don't really say enough.We are expected to just believe without thinking for ourselves.HOW you collect the data is as important as the data itself.The study says Dec '06 was the warmest on record in the US.In CO, where I live Dec. '06 was very cold.My family in CT noted how warm it was there during the same period.Does every state have a data point?Do some have more than one?Is CO temps weighted the same as CT temps despite occupying a much greater square mileage?Is the data collected by sattelite over a grid or randomly across the country, or do they just go out back and read a thermometer? This kind of info would be very helpful in judging the validity of the study.As I recall in grade school when you did a lab report you had to have a "Method" section so your teacher could see the validity of HOW you got your data.Why won't the scientific community make this info more easily available?Does anybody know where to find this info?
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ladykatharine1 year, 5 months ago
Journal articles are available at any good college/university library. Most of those require you to pay to get in if you're not a student though :-(
However, I agree - I would love it if all articles like this one had a list of citations (other than SOURCE: NOAA). I love citations because you can then read the articles cited, which then leads you to other articles...it lets you make sure that an experiment and it's data have been reproduced and validated.
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cleare1 year, 5 months ago
you can always contact noaa public affairs and ask how the data is collected. may be even ask to see the raw data.
if they don't want to show you, you can file a freedom of information act, but i don't think you'll have to.
any work done by a government agency, that isn't classified, is a public document.
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Bemuzed1 year, 5 months ago
whatever2000, are you qualified to actually understand the vast amount of data to draw your own conclusions? What are you looking for? What is your premise that the data is incorrect? Or are you just curious?
Is it not fact, that we have been polluting our planet for centuries? Is it not fact, that the Bible says we are the stewards of the earth?
Weather the data is true, skewed to one side or the other, we use our energy resources inefficiently. Use of anything inefficiently is a travesty -- i.e. money, oil, time, etc.
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airglide1 year, 5 months ago
I could use some of that warming trend where I live. We have set and are continuing to set cold records that go back 50 years. Come on people, time to share.
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Amazing11 year, 5 months ago
Well, let's see what happens next. How many years of continually rising temperatures that correlate with CO2 emissions will it take until a conclusion can be drawn from the data?
Doesn't it just make sense for all of us to conserve wherever we can, just in case there is a tie between global warming and human activity? And if there is no such link, so what? I will still have helped a tiny bit to reduce pollution. Certainly not a bad thing.
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whatever20001 year, 5 months ago
I agree with you. Why pollute when there is no reason to. Better safe than sorry I always say. It just makes good sense to tread lightly. To answer your question regarding "how many years" the answer is not so simple. After 1 million years of correlating CO2 levels and temperature the most you will be able to say is that they are correlated. Correlation does NOT mean one causes the other. It never has and it never will under any circumstances. This is one of the most overlooked facts when we see data that correlates two phenomena. People are quick to say,"look..look, this proves it!" When seeing correlations that assumption is an error. Correlation is a tendency for things to happen together. Does the amount of cows in an area cause people to eat more red meat? I don't know. There are a lot of cows in India. Maybe we should ask a Hindu.
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Edmar141 year, 5 months ago
I thought I noticed that extra 1.3 degrees!! Especially in February, which was the 4th coldest on record in the Northeast.
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commonsense4481 year, 5 months ago
Yeah I'm going to have to call bullsh!t on this one too, I reside in Denever, Colorado and many of you might have heard of the two months of continuous snow and record low temperatures we're recovering from. I've heard we've risen something like 0.7 degrees celcius in the past one hundred years? The Earth's temperature is supposed to fluctuate over long periods of time. When Al Gore himself starts living more green, I'll think about not driving my SUV so much. Until then, I've earned it, get the nannyists out of my hair.
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Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago
Of course it snowed more, more heat= more moisture in the air=more snow and more extreme weather.
I know its hard to fathom that global warming is happening when you had snow during winter, which must be proof that we are getting colder. But if you look at your state or countries overall yearly temp median, Its up.....
Cant debunk thousands of Weather baloons data...
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commonsense4481 year, 5 months ago
I know its up, like I said 0.7 degrees celcius the past 100 years. And I know more heat=more moisture=more snow, but like sagexparadox said some winters we have tons of snow and some we have none almost. I do doubt 0.7 degrees celcius up in the past 100 years is affecting our weather one season and not the next...
And where did I claim to be a native? I've been here 7 years and counting...
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invest071 year, 5 months ago
Don't know nuttin bout warmin in Florida. We getting colder and have been for over 100 years.
Citrus is a cold sensitive crop which is harvested in the winter (Nov-Mar). Fruit is damaged at 32 degrees F and trees are damaged at 29 degrees F.
In 1890 there were commercial citrus groves throughout all of Florida extending into coastal GA and SC. By 1960 the north line was Macintosh, FL. By 1980 the north line was Leesburg, FL. Today the north line is Kissimmee, FL.
Since 1890, the north line of commercial citrus has moved south over 250 miles due to progressively colder winters.
Obviously this is a long term trend which shows no sign of abating.
So I guess the whole world is getting warmer except for Florida which is getting colder?
Mr Gore, how is this possible?
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kctrixter1 year, 5 months ago
you said it better ( and 4sec faster :)) then I did, the link should help people understand.
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kctrixter1 year, 5 months ago
Ok one more time, Global Warming is about a few degrees, if we were talking about a day that would have been 82 being 84 you would never notice, thats not really what you would notice it's the change in weather patterns that you will see first, and that could mean some places will be hotter or some places will be colder it could also mean someplaces will not see as much seasonal change as they are use to. Weather a place is hotter or colder then it was last year does nothing to prove or disprove global warming.
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kctrixter1 year, 5 months ago
yes much more, A change in the oceanic conveyor belt, if that were to happen (as predicted in some models) would be the prof that NOBODY wants to see. I think it is important that people learn just what that does and how it does it, to really understand the full implications of Global Warming.
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choppywatters1 year, 5 months ago
I used to think that Global Warming was a crock too... but not anymore. The numbers just don't lie. Consider the fact that 10 of the 12 warmest years (in the Northern Hemisphere)since records first started being kept, have taken place since 1995. Doesn't that seem kind of odd? In Upstate NY our winter didn't start until Jan 15th. When I was a kid we had snow on the ground from November until April. I like the trend... but I worry what it will be like when my grandkids are adults. I think we've created a problem that can't be fixed.
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Countryhick1 year, 5 months ago
Uh , it states twice in the article that it is not from man made greenhouse gases , I forgot I'm illiterate and can't read .
What I have seen , most of NOAA does not buy into Gullible Warning , except when they need grants .
We (humans) are pretty arrogant to think we could effect such a thing as the Earths atmosphere , kind of makes us Gods , so some of the more ego driven people would believe .
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Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago
I dont get how people can still be pushing that statement that man isnt capable of effecting the Earths climate/atmosphere.
Especially when reports like this came out YEARS ago proving we do:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/08/02080
Thats right, after 9/11 when we grounded all flights, our temps dropped due to the lack of Contrails and Jetfuel in the air....
And for those with Nature.com subscriptions, here is the Original piece, with ALL source info, charts and graphs backing up this conclusion:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v418/n6898/fu
That is the best proof ever of our cause and effect.
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Openeyes1 year, 5 months ago
To think that humans can't effect their own atmosphere is the falacy here.There are more people in the world now than there has ever been as we know it.And a lot of them want what they have seen us use as a daily standard for two generations now.Can't blame them for that.But collectively it is damaging.It's not just the fossil fuels we burn.The waste that large corporations have routinely dumped in the oceans over decades is taking it's toll to.We have to do what we can now to try to head off truely dire effects that our grandkids will have to put up with.
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
I cannot fathom this argument about global warming.
We have George speaking quite often with hot air expelled, now how could the world then be warming?
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VictoriaSecrete1 year, 5 months ago
I think it is not just US facing this problem, everywhere, in this world is having this problem...
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