Bird species showing up farther north »
Posted By Eagle_Eye 1 year, 6 months ago in Science & TechnologyMore bird species in the USA are ranging farther north and even staying there for the winter in a possible sign of adaptation to global warming, ornithologists and conservation groups say. Some indicators come from the recent Great Backyard Bird Count, which found more swallows, orioles and other common birds in uncommon locations.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
This is further proof that there is a Climate Change happening. I have noticed less Northern Birds spending the winters in Florida and now I know why.
When the wildlife behaves in this manner then you know there is a definitive change occuring that is altering the Natural Course of things.
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lfergie8121 year, 6 months ago
Most birds will go where the food is and it appears that the supply is lasting longer in northern states.Food competition will push the birds into other places but it does appear that they are staying north longer and coming back sooner.
I read where the earth's magnetic field is moving and I wonder if that is effecting them.
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elzorro21621 year, 6 months ago
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ETproductions1 year, 6 months ago
No way. These birds have a political agenda. Just like the scientists who claim that climate change is man-made, they are hoping to tap into the vast resources of the bird seed industry and discredit the underfunded Big Oil and Coal Industries. Ignore them. They are pathological liars. Only Bush, O'Reilly, Hannity and Limbaugh know the truth.
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 6 months ago
Maybe they know something you & I know, but can't get our 'elected' officials to act upon!
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ronaldus1 year, 6 months ago
What it really has to do with is all the northern bird lovers feeding birds throughout the winter. They move south as the food disappears. If the food doesn't disappear, they stay where they are. Greater Canada geese have quit migrating because they are now the equivalent of giant pigeons in large cities and the surrounding suburban areas.
PS - Anecdotes are not science, except in the case of global warming, because global warming dogma is not really science, it's politics. You guys are tired of pretending to believe in the democratic process (all elections you lose are "stolen" after all) so you want to use "science" to justify a totalitarian autocracy with you in charge.
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bobo-in-texas1 year, 6 months ago
Wonderful news! I like birds and now we can enjoy so much longer!
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mark-stevens1 year, 6 months ago
The earth was covered in ice 15,000 years ago... yeah we are going through a climate change!!
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Amazing11 year, 6 months ago
It is happening and we should all be paying attention. My brother in Massachusetts saw a cardinal last summer. Not the usual habitat for that bird either. And the plants are also indicating that there is a change happening.
I have peaches forming already on my peach tree. Last summer, four trees fell across my drive. They just died and fell. The berries that usually grow in the woods failed to produce as they normally do. My hyacinths have already bloomed and gone by. I realize this is anecdotal, but it is real.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
I see the same thing down here in Florida Amazing1, our Azaleas have already bloomed, there is citrus fruit on the trees,
Eagle layed her eggs in November instead of this month, the trees are in full leaf, etc.
This also explains my question a couple months ago about not seeing as many Robins the past couple of years like I use to.
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tabla-rosa1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah, the magnolias in St.Louis are in full bloom right now, the bradford pears are begining their bloom cycle, and that is really unusual. Normally we are lingering just above freezing at this point in march, today it was 72. I don't ever remember this happeneing when I was a kid or a teenager. STL used to be a cold snowy icy sleety freezing rainy paradise. I believe what we are witnessing here is the begining of a terrible nightmare.
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tryinghard1 year, 6 months ago
I too am enjoying the variety of birds this winter. Although my feeders have been rarely visited compared to other years. I blame that on the increased Raptor activity.
Nature is very adaptable. God made that so...His eye is on the sparrow!
Only man, with our God given brains, are in danger.
Ironic, isn't it.
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kctrixter1 year, 6 months ago
I didn't realize that we needed more proof that we are in a global warming trend, and I don't really think we will need 20 more years of data to prove it. But the article was correct; birds are a good indicator species.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
LOL, "I didn't realize that we needed more proof that we are in a global warming trend"
Just read any post regarding Global Warming and the deniers come out of their holes!!!
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fretslinger581 year, 6 months ago
Isn't that the truth. The return of the Sandhills to the San Luis valley this year is pretty much as normal as they make their way to Idaho and Canada, however a statement made by Joe Lewandowski from the Colo. division of wildlife sends up a red flag for me. His statement.."They've been migrating for thousands of years, and there's nothing to indicate their migration patterns are changing.If anything, the birds are showing up in more parts of the state, which is an indication they are in good shape." Hummm.. Doesn't the second statement nullify the first? LOL
After thousands of years, now they seem to be in places they never were before. Interesting.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
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Amazing11 year, 6 months ago
And all this evidence that we proffer here is dismissed as anecdotal. We don't have laboratories, grants, or the credentials, but as people, we KNOW that change is happening because we are observant. Makes me want to kidnap a politician and make 'em WATCH the changes so they will BELIEVE that this is real.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
I don't think they care at all since they know they will be dead when it happens. There is so much proof, but no one wants to do much because it cuts into the bottom line of "Profit"
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fretslinger581 year, 6 months ago
I wish I could give that comment 2 positive votes!
For a lot of politicians, I think it depends on what developers', or industry leaders' money they have in their pockets.
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crespi1 year, 6 months ago
The birds are screwed. We'll be lucky if 10% make it. You can also expect huge fish die-offs since warm water doesn't hold as much oxygen, cold water species can suffocate.
A picture on Digg or someplace showed a huge number of sea cucumbers all moving in the same direction, which is very unusual and the poster couldn't figure it out.
They were crawling for their freaking lives(!) to get out of the heat and find enough oxygen to breath.
The animals are telling us, warning us, but the Fundamentalist Christians, corporate owners, and Libertarians who so actively block solutions to global warming by refusing to accept ANY responsibility all tell us
not to listen to Mother Nature screaming at us in agony.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
The birds in the wild are just like the birds the coal miners took down into the mines to warn of danger.
Rachel Carson also predicted changes all though due from chemical use in "Silent Spring"
Warmer water also increases bacterial growth that leads to algea and other problems.......:(
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lfergie8121 year, 6 months ago
The methane gas would kill the canary before the miner would pass out and warn them to get out of the area. Looking back, wasn't that a form of animal cruelty? LOL
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mcgrievysr1 year, 6 months ago
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Dascoop1 year, 6 months ago
Global warming, what's causing it, nature itself or is it something man has done?
We are aware that there is a global warming!
If it's something we have done, are we willing to change our life to make things better or do we just continue to ignore the problem and say it not happening.
The birds are depending on us!
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mcgrievysr1 year, 6 months ago
Dascoop---"The birds are depending on us!"
Hell, Scoop, the humans are depending on us! :-)Good article EE.
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Ratskii1 year, 6 months ago
Yes, I am working on it. I think even conservatives would have a hard time finding fault with doing the easy things we can do to reduce our footprint.
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
For many people the very idea that global warming could be caused by humans is not reasonable given the size of the system in question. Believe it or not, I used to be one of those people. Here are three graphs that changed my mind utterly.
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.ht
Scroll down about halfway down the page.
http://eospso.gsfc.nasa.gov/ftp_docs/Global_Warmin
Page 4 (look especially at when the level of CO2 began to rise)
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/WPP2
Again on page 4.
These are the things that changed my mind. Please recognize that each of these pieces of information is not from some private group with an axe of any kind to grind. This information is all from governmental agencies or the UN.
I would have just posted the graphs, but Netscape wouldn't let me. Sorry about that.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
I gotta say that it took me awhile. I don't generally listen to some schmo who tells me something. My wife and her hippy friends are the ones that made me look it all up. They kept running off at the mouth about 'global warming' and 'massive climatological disasters' and when I asked them where they got their data, inevitably it was from a source that was less than entirely unbiased. So, because I was going to give a speech on it, I looked it all up for myself. Consequently, I really changed my mind. I had to apologize to my wife and the hippies for laughing at them all that time. To her credit my wife didn't laugh at me...much.
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lfergie8121 year, 6 months ago
I must say that I wasn't a believer in global warming 15 years ago because of the conflicting information coming out. Ralph Nader and his group seemed like a bunch of protesters of everything man did but sorry to say, it seems like he was on to something. I would stop short of calling Nader a genius but he got an idea before others did and stuck to it. Talk about two extremes, Nader group on one side and Bush/Cheney group on the other and everyone else is somewhere in the middle. LOL
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fudgie1 year, 6 months ago
I live in Western NY, and have been noticing bird oddities. I blew them off as flukes, until now.
Great post, as usual EE.
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DrDash1 year, 6 months ago
I dont deny global warming.. but?
"Other factors can account for unusual sightings, such as the growing popularity of backyard bird feeders and loss of native habitat to development." and "The American Bird Conservancy noted last month that seven warbler species have shifted more than 65 miles north in a quarter-century." Is that natural for them to move? I am not to sure of this as an indicator. They also talk about how 80,000 people participated this year making the sightings more likely. Its like me crying Ice age because I got record levels of snow in the desert this year. Birds will migrate, and do so as needed for food ect, and those patterns will change... and should as the world is a dynamic place.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 6 months ago
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MacR1 year, 6 months ago
You know EE, this is why I admire you so much. You understand the difference. Yes it would be nice to be able to go outside even in the city and breath fresh air. But if the planet was all green right this very minute and Mom was still warming up. Would these bird patterns be changing?
I wonder about this along with things like Whales beaching themselves and Dolphins. I have this question though. Like some scientist think that the sonar from subs are causing this. Could their be another factor like this that could be causing these birds to do this?
Also predatory animals play a part in this too, how many of their enemies are out there now. Man it would be nice to have a world green and free from the old oil barons. But lets face it new power source means they will still control it.
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WCFIELDS1 year, 6 months ago
Isn't CO2 those bubbles in Soda Pop and Beer? Have y'all stopped swilling that stuff yet?
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not2needy1 year, 6 months ago
I think that there is one fact that we can all agree on, the earth is really warming, and whether it is because of human influence or if it is just the normal course of evolution we must take the responsibility of doing whatever we can to protect it!
All species need protection, humans, birds, and all other species.
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WCFIELDS1 year, 6 months ago
"Bird species showing up farther north." Nome, Alaska now has both a Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Popeye's. Birds are appearing farther North because of the Gas Guzzlers, Cow Belches (etc.) and Methan producing Vegans. Americans have, in great numbers, refused to wear heat reflecting tin foil hats. We're doing it to ourselves.
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