Hurricane Damage not Effected by Global Warming , Analysis Finds »
Posted by: bobo-in-texas 1 year, 1 month agof the Great Storm of 1900 had hit Galveston two years ago, it would have inflicted $72 billion in damage, nearly as much as Hurricane Katrina, researchers say. That's significant in an era when some blame global warming for catastrophic hurricanes. The research concludes that economic damage from hurricanes, after being adjusted, has remained relat
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bobo-in-texas1 year, 1 month ago
Said Rade Musulin, an Australia-based actuary and co-author of the new study, ``It seems that we have struck a nerve by challenging the notion that global warming is responsible for everything.''
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engineer1 year, 1 month ago
If you study, Hurricanes increase in ferocity when they are over warm water. The warmer the water the more dangerous they become. this is basic meteorologic science. There are more storms of greater magnitude as time goes on. I f you lived in Chicago in the winter for one day based on that logic, Chicago would be judged as continuously cold. You have to look at average increase over years, not one incident.
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aniokly1 year, 1 month ago
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CatholicRedneck1 year, 1 month ago
Aw shucks, ani, you've got to stop bragging on me like that. It embarrasses me.
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simonsez1 year, 1 month ago
The second major difference is that Katrina was more of a flood than a storm.
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invest071 year, 1 month ago
During 2004 my neighborhood was hit by 3 hurricanes. The state of Fl was hit by 4 in one year.
After each storm, my neighbors and I cleaned up the streets, cut down fallen trees, carried off limbs and contacted our insurance companies ourselves. We were all without power for 2 weeks and lived out of ice coolers.
This is part of living in a hurricane zone. No need to bellyache about the Feds, just do what is necessary to get by.
The State of Fl has a reasonable emergency preparedness program that actually works. 2 days after each storm, there were big trailers giving away ice. There are plenty of emergency shelters available. Power crews were working 24 hours a day.
People need to stop bellyaching about the Feds and take care of themsleves.
Think Galveston and screw New Orleans.
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aniokly1 year, 1 month ago
Seriously, I think Algore, and his minions have to do a lot more then talk to prove they are right about Global Warming, or climate change, or whatever they are calling it this week. Their big concert flopped. There are too many prominent Scientists that have debunked his hypothesis. There is no concensus, and having Democrats screaming, and threatening the deniers is psychotic. I am more afraid of those people then I am AlQaeda.
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doppich1 year, 1 month ago
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tanglang1 year, 1 month ago
I disagree because the pressure of the hurricanes are not too different from the ones years ago. Also, even with stronger structures, we have built up the coast lines, and developed land that should not be developed.
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newsquew1 year, 1 month ago
Some Facts:
Average maximum wind speed of Atlantic (Gulf) hurricanes has actually trended downward since 1950 as indicated by the employment of Hurricane Hunting Aircraft that monitor them....
Although, at the same time, media reports of hurricanes have increased upto nearly 60 times of those reported as recent as 1985.
The wind seems to be in the media, not in the hurricanes.
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capn_caveman1 year, 1 month ago
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rockman0691 year, 1 month ago
And will continue as we consider beachside property a premium. All we need is a marginally strong tidal wave to do more damage than any hurricane can and in a couple minutes with much less warning.
Kinda sobering...
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agentX1 year, 1 month ago
Another thing the authors of the study did not take into account was the lack of adequate hurricane forecasting and building materials in those days.
In recent memory, if know a hurricane is coming, people take action like boarding up windows and tying down loose property and other helpful actions.
In those days, you wouldn't have time- you only have 1 day at most to get ready. Basically, more things got tore up back then.
I do agree with the author that building a multi-million dollar condo and stuffing it full of rich old people 2 inches from the ocean has to be economically insane.
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Thanedoss1 year, 1 month ago
Hurricane damage is effected (caused) by hurricanes, not by global warming--which is rather obvious. Given the studies in _Science_ and Nature_ showing that global warming has caused an increase in average intensity of hurricanes, it undoubtedly would be correct to say that hurricane damage is exacerbated (made worse) by global warming. That would, of course, rather turn the message of the headline upside down, though, wouldn't it?
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
Global warmin, global warmin!!
You knows, we christian Conservative used to fight for the unborned - cause you know, its wrong to kill a babie - even one that is barely the size of a black eyed pea.
Plus, it used to be so important that we makes womin accountable for theyre llife choices. People gots to be held accountable for their lifesttyle choices - especially when lives are at stake.
I mean dont we always ask them libbies, 'maybe you are wrong and life DO begin at conception.'
But when it comes to global warmin- we gots to take the OPPOsite approach. We got to believe just as strongly that life aint in any danger due to our lifestyle choices.
I mean, shouldnt we ask , 'maybe them scientists are right and our life choices DO endanger the life o the planet.'.
Maybe us holdin them reckless womin accountable for havin babies is sorta llike bein held accountable for our reckless attitueds to the environmente.
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FordTruck5Speed1 year, 1 month ago
Good God, what the hell is Goppy talking about? Anyone? Please?
Ok, the real point is that someone has finally come out and said what meteorologists have known for a century. Hurricanes are affected by WATER temperature, air pressure patterns and wind direction. Global warming, carbon emissions and all the other crap that the enviro-weenies cry about have nothing to do with hurricanes. The Earth warms and cools in cycles. We all know that. But water currents have an impact too. When water warms in tropical breeding grounds, yes, more hurricane activity will occur. When Candada warms, the tropics don't care.
One major point to this whole thing is that tropical systems are cooling mechanisms. That's why you didn't see storms develop in the Gulf of Mexico in 06. Tropical storms are one of nature's many ways of balancing out excess heat.
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simonsez1 year, 1 month ago
East coast hurricanes generally form over the central area of Africa, a largely undeveloped part of the globe. It then travels WEST over the Atlantic to reach the USA gaining moisture and strength over the water.
Our weather generally flows west to east in the USA.
Is there an explanation for the east to west pattern?
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capn_caveman1 year, 1 month ago
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vettenut1 year, 1 month ago
Actually, Simon, I was waiting for some lefty wacko to post something truly profound, like:
"Tropical storms are pulled westward toward the US because Bush sucks, and Cheney sucks, too...... ???"
LOL!!!
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coolbeka1 year, 1 month ago
Hurricane Damage not Effected by Global Warming, it is effected by White House politics =)
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FordTruck5Speed1 year, 1 month ago
Global warming has been shown to be a bunch of garbage by a number of well-known and respected climatologists, including Dr. Bill Gray, tropical expert. There is absolutely no evidence of rising oceans, shrinking ice caps or any of the things that have been spouted by the global warming-istas.
Does everyone here realize that most of the "evidence" for global warming is from NOAA/NASA computer models? If you follow the weather at all, you have to know that models are unreliable at best, flat out wrong at worst, especially NOAA's GFS-based models. They are notoriously too warm, too fast with storm systems over the US, and basically out to lunch on tropical development. The European and Japanese models have been far superior because they can handle heat. The GFS can't, and we are taking its word for the idea that global warming is going to kill us all. Not a good idea, if you ask me.
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capn_caveman1 year, 1 month ago
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pagey1 year, 1 month ago
my evidence is that I see it with my own eyes, when I was a kid it would be nothing to have two feet of snow on the ground by November, now we have green Christmas's, and the kids don't bother getting sleds for Christmas, they get bikes instead.
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FordTruck5Speed1 year, 1 month ago
Pagey, the weather in your back yard isn't evidence enough for me. This winter, York, PA, had sub-zero high temperatures at least once (I think twice). Pittsburgh had a week of single-digit temperatures. Snowfall in New England was insane. One other bit of meteorological news is that the sustained cold over the Northeast happened with MINIMAL snowcover (save for New England). There hasn't been a cold shot like that in my lifetime without at least a moderate snowcover.
I still don't see anyone refuting that the modelling that is supposed to be telling us of doomsday is highly flawed. Someone show me where the GFS has been accurate in long-range forecasts.
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GarryBoldwater1 year, 1 month ago
How not to make an argument. This guy sets out to prove something is bunk then goes right on to prove his own contention is bunk without even realizing it. He begins by suggesting that a storm in 1900 was as costly as Katrina then claims this somehow debunks a connection to Global Warming and an increase in storm intensity caused by warmer waters. He later talks of much stricter building codes coming to pass in the twenties. Hello... In other words the storm of 1900 did not have the same stricter building codes as the Gulf Coast of 2005. Nowhere near the same. Therefore how can he claim the damage was comparable? There was also no way to forecast the storm of 1900 and alert people to get out of the way which is why 8000 people perished. It had more to with lack of advanced warning than storm intensity. To suggest more people died therefore the storm was stronger is crazy. I think his article makes the point opposite of the one he set out to make.
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