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	<description>An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists. Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder.</description>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Op-Ed:  This goes to the great...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Op-Ed: </p><p> This goes to the great truth. All to often those outside the  'intelligentsia' of their day come out with great ideas. </p><p> <a href="http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/01/04/the-insanity-of-genius-would-einstein-be-turned-away-by-todays-intelligentsia">http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/01/04/...</a> </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ekklesiawarrior</dc:creator>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Telegraph:  Although the work of...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Telegraph: </p><p> Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ekklesiawarrior</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:33:11 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Will UC Berkely and Davis do?]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Will UC Berkely and Davis do?</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Mutainia</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:48:42 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: just goes to show another virtue...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>just goes to show another virtue of free-market legalization. This wouldn't have happened had your friend just went down to the local corner store, coughed up some cash & paid his taxes on his smoke...ah, but such is...it's always much better to foster an underground black market and all the associated evils it brings...</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ConquerorWyrm</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:32:06 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Just curious - anyone on this thread...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Just curious - anyone on this thread attending or has attended Sanford? If you have drop me a private message - thanks</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>aceofspades1</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:54:52 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Until someone can come up with...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Until someone can come up with a great answer to the "theory of everything", the surfer dude is going to have to share room with the "JAYzus dude", in MY book.  I mean, for those of you who hate the concept of the Trinity, there is a scripture that says it's Jesus Christ who is holding the universe together.  "..., and by him all things consist", Colossians 1:17.  :)</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Mutainia</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:59:22 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Don't worry chef, he probably makes...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Don't worry chef, he probably makes a crappy risotto.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ZenAgain</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:57:28 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: He goes to Nevada during the winter?...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>He goes to Nevada during the winter?  The surfs best in Hawaii during winter and there is hardly any surf during the summer there.  He can go snowboarding on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa in Hawaii and still ride the surfs during the winter.  (tho, I gotta admit snowboarding way up on those heights must leave something to be desired). Auwe, brah, wassamatta wit your tinking?  (So much for his theory with this kind of thinking).</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>palama</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:35:29 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: some guy told me its eigths and...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>some guy told me its eigths and quarters, half an oz etc. </p><p> I've heard nickel and dime, and always used to assume that was 5 and 10 dollar bags. </p><p> I think they had to change the terminology because a bag costs about $25, and if you say a quarter bag, there's a confusion between weight and price. inflation. </p><p> all pure speculation, of course. theory unsubstantiated by personal experience </p><p> nothing to do with nothing, but I saw the result of a pot deal gone bad, and a friend of mine got his hand cut pretty bad with a razor. seemed the guy really needed that weed to mellow out, and didn't feel like paying. I doubt it was over a confusion of terminology </p><p> just an old memory resurfacing </p><p> the guy is a somewhat talented guitarist, and lucky for him sustained no tendon damage. meat of the thumb[palm held out clasping baggie]</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>DeadXXXManXXXTalkin</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:36:36 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Sub atomic physics and quantum...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Sub atomic physics and quantum theory involve a great deal of mathematical modeling. Direct observation is impossible for the most part. One might be tempted to believe that it is all hogwash but quantum theory is at the root of many of our modern technologies and its predictions have proven very useful, accurate, and reliable.  </p><p>  This gentleman may have stumbled upon the theory of everything, or he may have simply discovered a very elegant set of equations that appear to be meaningful. String theory appears to agree with many sub atomic observations as well but it has yet to be proven. Caution is the order of the day. In science, it is fairly rare that the heretic is correct. When it happens, it is a big event and receives more attention that the more mundane and incremental achievements that are far more typical but not so romantic.  </p><p>  The key to proving his theory will be if the new particle accelerator can produce any of the particles that his model predicts. </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Hanyman</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:36:19 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Here is a link to a forum where...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to a forum where Garret is actually discussing his ideas with other physicists and mathematicians.  It is a hoot to read even if most of us can't really follow all the details: </p><p> <a href="http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=196498">http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=1...</a> </p><p> The general feeling is that there may be something here.  Hey! This looks exciting.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>wildman6557</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:33:44 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Franz Kekule, and the structure...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Franz Kekule, and the structure of benzene. </p><p> Kary Mullis and the DNA polymerase chain reaction. </p><p> Many of the great discoveries of science came down to one "Holy Crap!" moment, or the other alternative, "Oh $hit!!!" - that is, totally by accident. </p><p> The glue in Post-It Notes was a failed experiment. Scotchguard came from a dropped sample tube on a new pair of Keds. Photochemical reactions were discovered because an absent minded researcher left a beaker on his office window and forgot about it. The list is endless. </p><p> </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Obaku</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:21:31 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>capeman, </p><p> The only way Exxon would pay for any new scientific research is if that research would lead to making the entire world ignore global warming and make the IPCC disappear. </p><p> What's more exciting is that perhaps this will lead to a new scientific age and perhaps put companies like Exxon out of business. One can only hope.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>loverman</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:53:06 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>It's a repug plot and i dont care if clinton did it....wait a minute....oop's wrong thread...</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>baddad59</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:48:27 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: When we solve this head-ache producer,...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>When we solve this head-ache producer, hopefully the pay-off will be ships to take us quickly to investigate OTHER head-ache producers, like this comet we've got flaring up now as I write this.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Mutainia</dc:creator>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: I found Dr. Motl's review of Lisi's...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I found Dr. Motl's review of Lisi's paper more indicative of his ego investment in string theory and the Standard Model than a balanced critique of the theory. </p><p> The review of the paper you posted is a nice sumary, and much more balanced. </p><p> Regardless, the debate is likely to be both intense and lively.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>deathray</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:10:55 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>They will be fighting this long after the LHC starts.  I suspect the E8 is the key to the theory.  The intricacies of the symmetry are beyond mere coincidence.  Lisi may become the next Einstein, with less hair.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>david_nwpa</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:07:30 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Remember, the only lesson mankind has learned over its long and distinguished intellectual development is this: Nature reveals its secrets reluctantly and then only one at a time...Or, as my physics teacher in highschool used to say, "For every secret Man unlocks, Nature presents another one in its place!"</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>kedirian</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:58:09 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: The second I read the submitted...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>The second I read the submitted article, I figured there would be a huge feedback from physicists on this subject.  I don't think one can challenge string theory and the Standard Model at once and not have a fight on their hands.  I read the "Not very likely theory of everything" as well.  It's a bit over my head, but I get the gist of it.  I have no doubt that the E8 theory (for lack of a better term) will be stripped down and scrutinized from top to bottom in the next few weeks and a verdict will be in.  If it's critically flawed, it will be known soon.  If they're still arguing this point when the LHC starts up, then I'll be more optimistic.     </p><p> </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>capn_caveman</dc:creator>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Then why aren't there any more...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Then why aren't there any more like him Blackie? Hello!</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>BronxBomber</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:26:53 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>"A Not Very Likely Theory of Everything" </p><p> While the science of his "LuboÅ¡ Motl" retort is way above my head. </p><p> Also he has a wiki page </p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuboÅ¡_Motl">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuboÅ¡_Motl</a> </p><p> From a quick google search he has a rep of attacking anyone who disagrees with string theory, his attacks are personal, he had a review of a book 'by lee smolin' deleted from Amazon. </p><p> He strike me as someone who has found his theory and thats the end of the matter(not very scientific) </p><p> A small side bar- from a comment neartthe end of his wiki it seems he also 1 of few who supported Harvard president Lawrence Summers's that (basically) men are better at science & engineering than women, he left Harvard not long after this and went back to the Czech Rep. and currently, like the surfer dude, has no University affiliation.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Blackadder1964</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:12:12 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>when i found out the bookstore had that text on back-order, it was too late to drop the class.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I am glad it was a surfer who found the answers to life.  I was afraid it was going to be some real nerd or some such.  I never have surfed myself, but I always wanted to.  Good article.  I hope the guy is right so we can all stop worrying about it.  </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ML2007</dc:creator>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>In the '90's two Utah physicists, from an unconfirmed accident in their lab, sprung the concept of "cold fusion" on the world.  They announced it to the press, rather than the scientific base. </p><p> That, of course, is why our cars are now powered by a Mr. Fusion that we can drop any garbage into and they fly.  We no longer are beholden to OPEC countries for oil, and of course why we'd never think of invading them.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>dwemm</dc:creator>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>SOM, the title of the story you are referring to is "A Likely Incorrect Theory of Everything" </p><p> It's a link to LuboÅ¡ Motl's review of Lisi's paper that he posted on his blog. LuboÅ¡ Motl is a theoretical physicist best known for his contributions to string theory and theoretical quantum physics. </p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubos_Motl">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubos_Motl</a> </p><p> I imagine that in the near future there'll be more string theory proponents attacking Lisi's paper, even though he hasn't even submitted it to a peer reviewed journal, at least as far as I know. </p><p> I haven't read Lisi's paper yet, but I've found a more palatable and what I thought was a more balanced review of his hypothesis at <a href="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2007/11/theoretically-simple-exception-of.html">http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2007/11/theore...</a> </p><p> Hope you find it helpful.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>kobzikov</dc:creator>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>LOL! </p><p> Do you think it would help you if it was an open book quiz?</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>deathray</dc:creator>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: kind of like an epiphany]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>kind of like an epiphany</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:24:17 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>"Hey, surfing = much pot = much thinking." </p><p> I don't know.  The theories I used to come up with when toasted never seemed to hold together very well the next day.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:21:26 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Deathray ... bro ... I sure hope that's not on the quiz.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:44 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>It seems that historically, true breakthroughs are rarely achieved by the mass of conventional minds, but rather by the individual who dares stand up to (and perhaps oppose) that conventional mind-set.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:14:48 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p> - I remember reading that one a long time ago.  Still brings out more than a chuckle.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:10:23 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but we're likely around the same age, so no sweat.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>deathray</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:04:27 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I've just found the commentary; there's a lot to digest.  I have to digest some of the implications of the paper and compare them to the assertions of the commenter. </p><p> I've seen some great math used to describe the "the reality we live in" that ended up being a complete red herring.  Just because it's elegant doesn't mean it's mathematically correct. </p><p> I think this theory will need to withstand some empirical data, which would likely come when the LHC comes online, as the article suggests.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>deathray</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:03:20 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>"Now what are the odds of some surfer dude coming up with an objective scientific theory as vast as this???" </p><p> The PHD in particle physics probably helped a bit!!!</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Blackadder1964</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:00:59 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>How many times have you heard the statement "Expert predictions  were way off"  </p><p> I salute this man for his courage and Initiative especially since it is outside of consensus based (Group think and support) of the scientific community "Base". </p><p> Hey Neophile ya' think Exxon is paying his surfing bills?</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>capecoralM</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:51:52 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: CR, most excellently said!]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>CR, most excellently said!</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>CactusAnnie</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:45:34 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>There's another submitted story that come through a 1/2 hour ago that was very very critical of this theory.  I think the title was "A Not Very Likely Theory of Everything".  Waaaaay over my head (like the abstract you quoted) but since you seem to dig it I thought I'd let you know it's been released into the wild here on Propeller.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>SonOfTheMask</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:29:52 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>LOL...maybe this guy scored some in order to come up with this theory! Ask him where he bought his nickel bag :) </p><p> (Do they still call them nickel and dime bags or did I just show my age a bit there?)</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>SonOfTheMask</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:27:56 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone else out there has noticed that through life at times we lose things and we get in a panic to find them, but just when you say "well I give up" that is the point when you find the object. It is the same thing as when you say you will sleep on it and the answer becomes clearer. The human mind is a wonderful thing and if presented with a problem and supplied with information and time it will come to a conclusion. I believe this is what happened in this case. Now comes the interesting part, he will be forced to present his idea and that means a forced line of thinking which may cloud the original idea. I wish him well for there will likely be many critics. This was an interesting read.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>canadianrancher57</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:27:22 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I really need to score some better weed if I'm going to understand this better...</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>ConquerorWyrm</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:21:46 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Very interesting, over my head,...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, over my head, but interesting.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>tchef</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:21:31 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>LOL...I actually read the paper today. </p><p> From the abstract: </p><p> All fields of the standard model and gravity are unified as an E8 principal bundle connection. A non-compact real form of the E8 Lie algebra has G2 and F4 subalgebras which break down to strong su(3), electroweak su(2) x u(1), gravitational so(3,1), the frame-Higgs, and three generations of fermions related by triality. The interactions and dynamics of these 1-form and Grassmann valued parts of an E8 superconnection are described by the curvature and action over a four dimensional base manifold. </p><p> <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0711.0770">http://arxiv.org/abs/0711.0770</a> </p><p> Some elegant mathematics here...</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>deathray</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:10:08 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: For those who are interested, here...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>For those who are interested, here is the link to Garrett Lisi's paper: <a href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.0770">http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.0770</a></p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>kobzikov</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:59:50 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I looked, but this was the closest I came. </p><p> <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38718">http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38718</a></p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>capn_caveman</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:56:20 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>"Mind the size of a planet, and what do I get..... Some human that thinks he's out-thought me.... Oh dear...."</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>Dicax_Maximus</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:48:08 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: ..not to mention much munching...where...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>..not to mention much munching...where are those half a dozen hamburgers???</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>BronxBomber</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:44:49 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Now what are the odds of some surfer dude coming up with an objective scientific theory as vast as this??? I wonder if this dude grooves to the Beach Boys?</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>BronxBomber</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:43:02 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Hey, surfing = much pot = much thinking.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>anadaji67</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:39:38 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>where are all the great scientific minds that inhabit Propellor? - -Why aren't they chiming in? Could it be they are zoning out on E8?</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>aceofspades1</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:34:43 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>I'll bet a lot of big egos are going to look for ways to rip it apart. Will be interested to see what happens after the big collider comes on line.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>pongping</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:34:06 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>That's what I thought as well. </p><p> I'll bet there is probably an article in the Onion archives with a similar title.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:41 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Great article.  I've always preferred...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I've always preferred simpler explanations. </p><p> </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>priapism</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:17:26 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>'Holy crap, that's it!' </p><p> Now that is MY kind of physicist!! </p><p> So long "Eureka", we'll remember you fondly.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>jimdoze</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:44 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>What Brosef?  You don't speak surfarian? </p><p> Only one hint then:  Ding dong, as in doorbell, idea.  Used to describe a REALLY COOL idea. </p><p> (You can figure out the rest...)</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>CactusAnnie</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:18:22 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Who knew Spirographs held the secrets to the universe! :)</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>SonOfTheMask</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:47:37 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Say what?  You lost me at Brosef...LOL]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Say what?  You lost me at Brosef...LOL</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>SonOfTheMask</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:39:06 EST</pubDate>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Whoa man, like, far out dude.</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>tdrapeau</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:33:20 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Rad article, Jordon!  Brosef, What...]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Rad article, Jordon! </p><p> Brosef, What a Cooleo, Gnarmax  Ding Dong! ;D</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>CactusAnnie</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:32:18 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: Neat]]></title>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>Neat</p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>SonOfTheMask</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:16:55 EST</pubDate>
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             <title><![CDATA[Comment: When I first read the headline,...]]></title>
             <link>http://science.propeller.com/story/2007/11/15/surfer-dude-stuns-physicists-with-theory-of-everything/comment/1532757</link>
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             <description><![CDATA[<p>When I first read the headline, I figured this was from 'The Onion'.  Thankfully it was not.  Very fascinating article.    </p>]]></description>
             <dc:creator>capn_caveman</dc:creator>
             <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:11:29 EST</pubDate>
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