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National Geographic new program "Six Degrees Could Change the World" premiers Sunday, February 10th. This site gives a preview of the program along with what experts predict could happen to our planet.

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Eagle_Eye7 months ago

This is a very good preview for the up coming show regarding the effects of just a few degrees on our world.
There are a lot of interactive links on this page with video presenting our current scientists concerns. I found it to be very interesting and wonder if we have passed the point of no return.
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  rdy2rck7 months ago
  
  I'm sorry to say I think we have passed the point of no return whether you believe in man made global warming or not:(
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    GHOSTWHOWALKS7 months ago
    
    You're right. Which ever is the cause, the end result is not good.
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      rdy2rck7 months ago
      
      Yeah, but my belief system says I have to do what I can, but it saddens me while reading below the namecaling,etc. which accomplishes nothing.
      The simplest question we can ask is what can we do with what we have today(tech... vs. what we would like it to be.
      A blend of logic and emotions.
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  lvrofwolves7 months ago
  
  secondchance-I'm more apt to believe in climate change, and the definition of global warming includes this. Many places have ice glaciers and alps melting at an accelerated speed...how does that equal the coldest in many decades? might be coldest in some spots that are not typical, and warmer in spots that are not typical, which throws things off balance.
  even if they used the words possitive, 100% sure etc..there will always be some who say naaaaa.
  using the words they do is being realistic, they cannot predict the future, but they can say these are the possibilities and evidence is pointing in that direction.
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      capecoralM7 months ago
      
      I am guessing that your conclusive evidence contains the terms "likely" and "highly likely" is that correct? Very scientific indeed.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        What is your scientific facts that show humans have no influence on the earths changes??
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        There is no conclusive evidence either way. There is only theories and would ifs.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        HUH????? are you saying there is no conclusive evidence that shows humans have NO influence on the earths changes???
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        The post is in regard to Global Warming and the cause being man made. Are you talking about Man Made Global Warming or something else?
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        I am talking about this post regarding a program that National Geographic is showing regarding the influence of man on the climate and how a rise of SIX little degrees will influence the earth.
        Yes the sun is hotter, the earth goes through changes, but the whole point is what humans influence is on these changes.
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        I'm sure there won't ever be anyone who knows 100% what percentage is human responsibility and what percentage is natural, personally I think it's a mixture of both. Regardless of the reasons,regardless of the percentages if we can do something to help fix the problems or make it so they don't have as much of an affect, then we should at least try.
        that's a whole hell of a lot better then to do nothing at all.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        However the question remains. If we do not know what the cause is, or if the cause is beyond human control,then how can there be a proposed solution.
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        Earthquakes and tornados are beyond human control, but we know some solutions to minimize the damage they cause.
        Maybe some actually do know the exact causes, there are plenty of pointers to both natural and man made, in the end IF it all happens in the worst scenerio- is it going to matter who or what caused it the most? what matters is that we find ways to help ourselves, and if it never happens, what do we have for the cost and the effort??? plenty of rewards will be there.
        What rewards will there be if we put in no effort?
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        I suppose the cost depends on the proposed and implemented solution and the unintended consequences. For example Roger Angel is proposing the deployment of trillions of small discs in space in an attempt to deflect energy from the sun and cool the planet. The discs would be placed in orbit at a distance four times that to the moon. The spacecraft would form a long, cylindrical cloud with a diameter about half that of Earth, and about 10 times longer. About 10 percent of the sunlight passing through the 60,000-mile length of the cloud, pointing lengthwise between the Earth and the sun, would be diverted away from our planet.
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        splitrch7 months ago
        
        It seems to me there's a ******potfull of money to be made in greening the way energy is produced. If a byproduct is cleaning rather than fouling the environment and reducing Co2 emissions, than that's just a dividend.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        JQP and lvr some times you just can't talk to some people,they like to disrupt and go off topic.
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        And some seem to call others dumbshit and dumbass.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        Who the F are you? Some little man who does not want to hear anything other than yourself talk. There are opinions other than yours. I know you want to shut those people up and it seems to have them die. Your intolerance for additional information on the matter suggest that you are a closed minded individual who thinks highly of yourself. I have pity and sympathy for people like you. I will say a prayer for you.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        LOL a flamer is what you are nothing more. All of your ad hominem arguments add nothing to the debate. You have an open mind yet when someone such as myself gives you information that does not agree with your interpretation you tell me you hope I die. Check out the CERN site and the CLOUD experiment. Perhaps coming from the source will allow you, with your open mind and all, to learn something new. Or perhaps you will just call the scientists who are conducting the experiment dumbshlt since you obviously believe it is settled.
        At least five abrupt, global climate changes of 4-15Â° C in the past 16,000 years have implications for understanding presentâ;;day global warming: Climatic models that predict soaring of global temperatures in the coming century as a result of increased atmospheric CO2, do not incorporate such geologic data. http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2006AM/finalprogram/a...
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        Glaciers advanced from about 1890â;;1920, retreated rapidly from 1925 to 1945, readvanced from 1945 to 1977, and have been retreating since the present warm cycle began in 1977. Comparable, cyclical, climatic fluctuations occurred in the North Pacific (PDO), the North Atlantic (NAO), Europe, and Greenland. Because the warming periods in these oscillations occurred well before atmospheric CO2 began to rise rapidly in the 1940s, they could not have been caused by increased atmospheric CO2 and global warming since 1900 could well have happened without any effect of CO2. If the cycles continue as in the past, the current warm cycle should end soon and global temperatures should cool slightly until about 2035, then warm about 0.5Â° C from 2035 to ~2065, and cool slightly until 2100. The total increase in global warming for the century should be 0.3 Â° C, rather than the catastrophic warming of 3-6Â° C 4-11Â° F predicted by the IPCC.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        capcoral, darn,that should of been a neg for your foul language!!!
        you are not even on topic here, please don't post on my posts anymore, I don't like your style of comments and they are not relevant to my goal of having civil discussions.
        
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        Did you neg john Q for foul language?
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        no i gave an accidental poz to cape coral idiot
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        I realize that, meaning you meant to give a neg for what you considered foul language, that is why I asked if you gave Johnq one for his foul language. And you know, for someone who TALKS, and TALKS about people on this site, doing this and that...I sure have noticed you really do your share of calling peoples comments "dumb" and name calling in general. I guess it is easier to talk it , than walk it.
        and as for you comment above, I am not sure whether you are calling cape coral an idiot or myself, but either way, I will just consider the source.
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        THETAKEOVERbyILLUMINATIwrittenNOW7 months ago
        
        eeeeerrrr wrong.goverments across the land have made and tested weather control.peep this
        http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/09/0...
        http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002163.html
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1469610.stm
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      Eagle_Eye7 months ago
      
      JQP, you used the key words here "the role humankind is playing,"
      That is the whole point!! Yes the earth has had changes ranging from cold to hot, but this time around we have contributed to the natural cycle.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        We, too, are natural, and a part of the natural cycle. What is a shame is that we can't be the intelligent part, the part that has been lacking since the beginning.
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        joeeddie7 months ago
        
        And third world countries are still clearing the rain forests. They use the lumber for their livelihood. Should we, as a globally warmed world, outlaw this practice and let them starve? Many scientists have said that the destruction of the rain forests is the largest contributor to climate change.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        "destruction of the rain forests is the largest contributor to climate change."
        It sadly is one of the largest, if they continue to clear the forest there will be where for the rain to form or oxygen we breath to be created.
        Sadly the people there will learn like they have in Haiti. Look at that nation, striped bare of all forests, nothing but a piece of dirt that makes life harder for them.
        What is the solution, they need to incorporate another way to make a living and cut population growth. Many countries have found the eco-tourism is a wonderful solution. Make money off the existing habitat while it is still there.
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        THETAKEOVERbyILLUMINATIwrittenNOW7 months ago
        
        Rating: 0 ( 0/-0) | 2008-02-05 23:04:31 THETAKEOVE... Send Message
        
        .Goverments across the land have made and tested weather control.peep this
        http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/09/0...
        http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002163.html
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1469610.stm
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        Out of curiosity, who is "we" that should outlaw practices in other countries?
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        I think 'we' means we who are consuming those products.
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      Eagle_Eye7 months ago
      
      "Back in the 1970s we were going through a cooling trend"
      Science was less informed then, there are scientific discoveries made every day that changes science opinion and facts along with research.
      Comparing today with the science of the 1970's is like comparing apples to oranges.
      At least in the 70's we knew there was going to be an effect, and had the clean air bill not been passed imagine what our air would be like today
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    GHOSTWHOWALKS7 months ago
    
    Second consider this: When you're but* deep in alligators it's hard to remember your primary purpose was to drain the swamp. In other words, you wouldn't believe anything until it bit you on the arse. To late then to cry for help.
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      KMFDM7 months ago
      
      How long do we have to stand here stairring at these two bright shinning lights before we realize that it is "highly likely" we are just about to get plowed by a double trailer semi-truck.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        In real time "a second" in earths time a few decades makes the difference.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        SO what would a 100 years of data be worth, which is by the way the amount of data being used to make these dire predictions.
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    tkyrchncs7 months ago
    
    Your post is absolutely false, secondchance. There is ABUNDANT evidence that human production of gases and aerosols is a large, if not the largest, factor in our current warming trend.
    What difference does it make if it has warmed and cooled before? It has never happened before when there were 6.5B people living mainly in the coastal areas. Every time it has happened before it has been disastrous for the dominant species.
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      rdy2rck7 months ago
      
      I think everyone can agree on one thing.What man is doing to this earth is no good.
      We can't change a cycle, but we can think and act on what man is doing to this earth. This is our responsibility no matter what's causing what.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        Well said. thank you.
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        rdy2rck7 months ago
        
        Your welcome tky.Just trying to state agreement points hoping to ease emotions:)
        If we can't remain civil on this little article,how are we to expect the powers to be to change anything.
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      lvrofwolves7 months ago
      
      Even if it was possible someone came up with 100% proof, there are still some who would still be saying it isn't so.
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        Teech7 months ago
        
        That's my entire point here. They don't have proof, but yet dorks like George Bush say it's not true and millions of people believe him. To me, that's a problem.
        What will Bush do if, and or when we spiral into a warming trend, then what? Will he come out and apologize for the deaths of millions of people and causing countless spent money, all over nothing? (Iraq?) I doubt that. He will probably wait abougt 6 or 8 years after the disaster of a warming trend, then he'll come out, in a big panic like fit and say, the warming trend is real, it is catastrophic, and has been caused my man's pollution. Wanna bet? ........ Jeez, are we talking about Iraq or global warming? hmmmmmmmm
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        Teech7 months ago
        
        Not original at all, just a regurgitation of some typical Neocon vomit. Sure I can come up with better stuff, but why waste the effort? The Great Decider, The Most Honest One, The Budget Balancer, The Great Iraq War Hero, The All Wise And Powerful One, The Savior of Western Civilization, has stated that global warming is bad science and a hoax.
        Gee, that's good enough for me! Who would I be to argue!
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        The Nobel committee believes him, to the point where it is not even a scientific issue any more, but one that requires action to assure world peace.
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        So was the Nobel committee in belief that Yasser arafat was committed to peace as well? If so...what a joke they are.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        The award is made based on WORKING for peace. Working to rectifying injustice and misery is working for peace, whether it be created by ill-will, indifference, or disaster.
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        secondchance- Al Gore did not invent global warming nor was he the first one to be speaking about it. He's just the person you've probably heard loudest.
        LOL I find it funny that some people think that 100s upon 100s of scientists from many different countries that have studied for many many years global climate change, must be in kahoots with Al Gore.
        AG is a messenger with a public mouth and $ and yes I think he is also somewhat of a hypocrite, but that doesn't change the facts one bit.
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      tkyrchncs7 months ago
      
      You claim there is no evidence, I claim there is ABUNDANT evidence. Google climate change or global warming, and you will get many pages of hits. That's 100% proof of "abundant evidence" in my opinion.
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  splitrch7 months ago
  
  I was at a Super Bowl party on Sunday. Another guest was from Alaska. He tells me that climate change is real. The Arctic is warming and he has seen the changes. I don't know if this is good enough for you but I will listen closely to someone from an area which is among the first to be affected. Climate change will affect different areas differently. It's not as simple as everyplace just gets hotter. Some places get colder. The planet's climate system is complex so the affects of climate change are complex too.
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  Klarissa7 months ago
  
  It is based on someone's book, which is a compilation of specially chosen "facts" (Facts are merely consolidated opinion) to bolster his theme.
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  THETAKEOVERbyILLUMINATIwrittenNOW7 months ago
  
  Look weather control succesfully tested and used for how long!?! FOR YEARS
  http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/09/0...
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1469610.stm
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not2needy7 months ago

I couldn't get the preview to load, been having a lot of problems with that lately.
Thanks for the heads up EE and if you can remember, remind me so i can be sure not to miss this special on NG. It's still too early in the week to set the reminder on TV.
Thanks for the heads up!
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tkyrchncs7 months ago

Good find, EE. Thanks. Pretty scary, to see what's coming. I wonder if there's really anything we can do too. I think maybe we're at the point where we just need to be planning what we will do when it happens, rather than worrying about trying to stop it.
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  capecoralM7 months ago
  
  Why is a natural warming or cooling scary? The earth has gone through many cooling cycles that have led to ice ages and many warming cycles leading to a warmer climate. The fact that cold kills more species and results in more human misery should be taken into account.
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    lvrofwolves7 months ago
    
    capecoralM-It's scary because life as WE know it wasn't the same during the ice ages,or any other times there were dramatic increases or decreases of temps for a long period of time. Maybe you think you could survive, but what about everyone else?
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      Eagle_Eye7 months ago
      
      WONDERFUL come back to a dumb comment lvro!!!
      "The fact that cold kills more species and results in more human misery should be taken into account." THAT IS SCARY and why there is so much worry!!
      I don't think that capecoral thinks about life beyond his life time, I wonder if he has grand children?
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        I don't think he thinks about life outside of himself either, doesn't take into consideration the whole chain of life, a pity. I think human life is extremely important, but we have to care alot about other species as well, they are also links in the chain.
        There are many things I've never seen, but at least I have the opportunity as of now if I wanted, and I want my child/grandchildren and everyone else to have that same opportunity.
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        rdy2rck7 months ago
        
        I hate to disagree Ivro, but I think cape is just making a scientific point with no agenda behind it IMO.
        Thanks for the heads up EE.
        FY-The mini Ice age that hit in the middle ages cased millions and millions of deaths and released the plague and scientists estimate the Earths change was 1 degree or less. Scary.
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        rdy2rck, ok to disagree with me :-) but his so called scientific point doesn't cut it with me and as far as no agenda, reading most of his comments in the past on this issue, I feel he does have an agenda behind it, IMO.
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        rdy2rck7 months ago
        
        Ok to disagree and be friends still. I don't know him and was just going by one comment. It seemed just a statement.But reading below with the namecalling and criticism of others opinions tends to lead me to believe he does have an agenda so you may be right. More info. added to my brain.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        This is the guy that wishes the baby-boomers would hurry up and die.
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        rdy2rck7 months ago
        
        More information to add to think about.Knowing some one is a process.
        But no one please take offense-I'm a little naieve and just not used to name calling and don't like it.
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        he's still around, the hatefull namecalling and remarks are on other stories.....
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        rdy2rck7 months ago
        
        I will ivestigate Ivro. I'm learning about people here all the time.
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        You should know, santienne could post what a lovely day it was, and you would do a drive by neg of the comment.
        
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        lvrofwolves7 months ago
        
        BS, not my style at all. The day sainte makes a comment about a lovely day ( true I'll go look first) and doesn't resort to his usual name calling and hatefull comments, I'll definately give him a pos! not that he cares about getting negged, that's extremely obvious, and ok with me because I prefer hateful people to be out in the open.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        Ain't it the truth. Sneaky hateful people are REALLY bad.
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        DropkickaLib7 months ago
        
        Theny you must love the Clintons.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        I don't think you or many others have any idea what you are talking about. Your misdirected assumption of what I care about is testimony to that fact. If you think your grandchildren are going to be better off as far as quality of life by shutting down the Global economy and enacting a socialist wealth transfer program based on an unproven and highly controversial theory you are misguided.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        "misdirected assumption of what I care about is testimony"
        No, no, there is no midirected assumption here, just reading your posts makes it quite clear that you are all for the continued explotation of the earth and will post what ever to give negative information regarding our posts and feelings.
        We can always count on you to be the party pooper.....
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        Because i may post information which does not support your ignorant assertions does not make it false, negative or misleading but rather only information. As far as feelings are concerned, mine in particular, or my stewardship of my surroundings, or my volunteer work in my community, I can only say to you sir, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        What scientific "FACT" are you referring to?
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        Twenty years ago, climate research became politicised in favour of one particular hypothesis, which redefined the subject as the study of the effect of greenhouse gases. As a result, the rebellious spirits essential for innovative and trustworthy science are greeted with impediments to their research careers. And while the media usually find mavericks at least entertaining, in this case they often imagine that anyone who doubts the hypothesis of man-made global warming must be in the pay of the oil companies. As a result, some key discoveries in climate research go almost unreported.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        It is not the Greenhouse effect it is the solar system - CLOUD (Cosmics Leaving OUtdoor Droplets) is a novel experiment at CERN conducted by an interdisciplinary team of leading scientists from 18 institutes in 9 countries. The roots of the experiment can be traced as far back as two centuries, when the Astronomer Royal, William Herschel, noticed a correlation between sunspots and the price of wheat in England. This marked the first observation that Earth's climate may be affected by variations of the Sun. Solar-climate variability has remained a great puzzle since that time, despite an intensive scientific effort. During the 'Little Ice Age' around the 17th and 18th centuries, when sunspots all but disappeared for 70 years, the cosmic ray intensity increased and the climate cooled. This seems to be merely the latest of around a dozen similar events over the last ten thousand years.
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        Klarissa7 months ago
        
        Cape, thanks for sharing facts about out climate history
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        Wolfie20077 months ago
        
        EE
        That was rude. How can you assume so much with so little to go on. Yeah, that was rude and you should apologize. Tell me EE what does "explotation" mean?
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        "Tell me EE what does "explotation" mean?"
        OK, over use of natural non renewable resources that produces foreign by products that the earth can not renew.
        Over population using up the natural resources that the earth can not replenish fast enough.
        Use of un-natural man made chemicals and products that after our use are not biodegradable and have left massive land fills and ocean damage. (Not many know about all the chemical and radioactive waste that has been dumped in the ocean)
        It means we take things for granted with out thinking or caring about future impacts.
        What is rude?? Please explain what I need to apologize to you for Woolfie??
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        Wolfie20077 months ago
        
        EE
        This is rude: "WONDERFUL come back to a dumb comment lvro!!!
        "The fact that cold kills more species and results in more human misery should be taken into account." THAT IS SCARY and why there is so much worry!! I don't think that capecoral thinks about life beyond his life time, I wonder if he has grand children?"
        And it's capecoral you should apologize to.
        
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        ABANOCLA7 months ago
        
        And telling people not to post on "HIS THREAD" gee thought it was propellers thread.
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        tkyrchncs7 months ago
        
        The theory is not highly controversial. In fact, there are a small handful of true scientists that cast doubts on some specific methodologies or conclusions, and some number of very loud exploitative capitalists whose pocketbooks will suffer and despotic governments whose power will wane, who disagree. No major scientific group or organization world wide disputes that we are experiencing a human-induced or human-increased warming trend.
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        nostalgia7 months ago
        
        The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame
        Global warming has finally been explained: the Earth is getting hotter because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past 1,000 years, according to new research.
        A study by Swiss and German scientists suggests that increasing radiation from the sun is responsible for recent global climate changes.
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=...
        Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds
        Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun's activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.
        Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, recently linked the attenuation of ice caps on Mars to fluctuations in the sun's output.
        
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        nostalgia7 months ago
        
        He also blamed solar fluctuations for Earth's current warming trend. His initial comments were published online by National Geographic News.
        http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_s...
        This has been reported on for years but is largely ignored by the MSM.
        Take a look at the current climate models being used - they don't even include solar activity
        Meteorologist Documents Warming Bias in U.S. Temperature Stations
        http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=22203
        Some of the actual stations being used to record temperature are examined in more detail here
        http://www.surfacestations.org/
        These are the stations that are used to determine temperature change. Any first year student in climatology or meteorology wouldn't place stations in these locations
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        It is the natural course of the Sun to burn hotter as it dies.
        But, due to the loss of the thick layer of ozone, and in some parts of the world no ozone, more radiation is reaching the earth, current life forms have difficulty adapting to this amount of radiation so now there are higher numbers of skin cancer and other things connected to this natural course.
        We humans are just excelerating this natural course.
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        capecoralM7 months ago
        
        Mars is being hit by rapid climate change and it is happening so fast that the red planet could lose its southern ice cap, writes Jonathan Leake.
        Scientists from Nasa say that Mars has warmed by about 0.5C since the 1970s. This is similar to the warming experienced on Earth over approximately the same period.
        Since there is no known life on Mars it suggests rapid changes in planetary climates could be natural phenomena.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        Then I guess we can expect a much more rapid warming..more reason to head for the hills! Mars also doesn't have the same atmosphere as earth, there are so many variable that I'm just not going to go there.
        I guess at this rate Venus will melt.
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        nostalgia7 months ago
        
        Periods of intense solar activity are cyclic
        That's what the Russian scientists at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory have been writing about for years
        Others are also starting to take note
        NOAA: Sunspot is Harbinger of New Solar Cycle, Increasing Risk for Electrical Systems
        new 11-year cycle of heightened solar activity, bringing with it increased risks for power grids, critical military, civilian and airline communications, GPS signals and even cell phones and ATM transactions, showed signs it was on its way late yesterday when the cycle's first sunspot appeared in the sun's Northern Hemisphere, NOAA scientists said.
        "This sunspot is like the first robin of spring," said solar physicist Douglas Biesecker of NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center. "In this case, it's an early omen of solar storms that will gradually increase over the next few years."
        http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/200801...
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      capecoralM7 months ago
      
      Well life as WE know it was not life as our parents or grandparents knew it either. So what is your point?
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      lvrofwolves7 months ago
      
      Wouldn't mind living in my parents time, grandparents or even great grandparents time wasn't so bad, but none of them lived during the ice age.
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        Eagle_Eye7 months ago
        
        Of course it is different!! The air is dirtier, the water is contaminated, species have gone extinct, over population, etc.
        Our goal as concerned citizens of the planet is to try and preserve what is left for future generations to be able to survive. But we all know that is of no concern to you.
        Be it getting warmer or colder, either way, life forms on this planet will suffer more because of our impact now on the earth.
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