Science – Earth gives off a relentless hum of countless notes completely imperceptible to the human ear, like a giant, exceptionally quiet symphony, but the origin of this sound remains a mystery. Now unexpected powerful tunes have been discovered in this hum. These new findings could shed light on the source of this enigma.
Yup. I rather like the "world" of Jordan's Wheel of Time in some ways though. Silmarillion is my favorite of Tolkien's works, idk why... just something about it I love.
Hi Mdiar. I'm a WoT fan too. I was very depressed when The Dragon passed away. Although I'm looking forward to the final book to answer the mysteries and so forth, it won't be the same.
No, it won't be the same at all... I was really depressed before it happened and then it did happen and it just made everything worse. At least it will be completed though...
Any ideas on what will happen?
Well, I'd love to see Moraine return...I've been holding out hope for what, let's see, 5 books? LOL
I'm equally bummed out that the prequels won't get finished. I really enjoyed reading about the early lives of Moiraine, Siuan Sanche, Lan Mandragoran, etc.
Yeah, I wanted to read those outrigger novels, particularly the one about Mat and those prequels. Moiraine will be back, of that I'm certain. Throughout the series we had a few possible hints for her return but the most recent thing is basically confirmation. I think Jordan also said that Moiraine can't write a lie. Besides, she's a parallel to Gandalf. Also we figure out who killed Asmodean... that has been bugging me for years. What I'm interested in is to see the reunion between Gawyn, Galad, Elayne and Morgase. As well as seeing if Gawyn goes crazy and tries to kill Rand... Oh, have you ever heard of the "Mazrim Taim is Moridin" idea? If so that will be interesting to see.
I'm not familiar with there being a story about Mat...where can I find that? I only know about "New Spring" which was the prequel that Jordan did publish. I'd read that he planned two more that would bring us up to the point that Moiraine found Rand, Mat, and Perrin at the beginning of "The Eye of the World".
Yeah, that whole Asmodean thing has been a burr in my saddle for years. I thought it was Ishamael or maybe Lanfear.
Taim sure seems like he might be a Forsaken, but not sure that he is Moridin.
It was planned on being written before he passed away, it was meant to take place ten years after the main sequence of books. He was planning on those prequels and a few "After" sort of things to show what happens with some characters, Mat/Tuon being one he said he had a general outline for. Taim is one of the most mysterious characters of the series. Personally I have an odd theory about when Moridin entered the series linked with the weather (remember the winter and Ishamael is defeated, it suddenly goes away? I think the Dark One works through Ishamael/Moridin to effect weather, putting him into the world when the endless summer hit, around book five). Moridin isn't Demandred, Jordan said he wasn't several times. Moridin seems likely if its any Forsaken, timing is right and its a great position, Taim displays Moridin's colors and hates Rand with a passion. Considering what Rand did to him as Ishamael, its only natural he would. I always assumed Graendal killed Asmodean.
I didn't know Jordan had ruled out Demandred. I thought it might be Demandred in disguise, since I think he's the only male Forsaken not killed, right?
Maybe he's a Darkfriend that can channel. It just seems like he's too involved with Rand to ever slip away and be Moridin. ?
That was my initial thought as well. However how often do you actually see him doing anything? All you see him do is occasionally show up and give orders. Almost every actual act, after orders, is done through a proxy. Half the time he even orders people around he probably used Cyndane, Moghedien or Shaidar Haran. He really isn't very active after you think about it. We don't know where he or Demandred is located. Demandred is the main general, it would make sense if he were in the Blight somewhere planning for Tarmon Gai'don. If Taim is a Forsaken he has to be Moridin. We have evidence that Taim is a Forsaken. Though to be honest I just remembered a quote by Jordan putting Taim's age at around 35, so I suppose Taim is just Taim... possibly turned to the Shadow with a circle of thirteen. Definitely taking orders from Moridin though, looking at his "let the lord of chaos rule" quote and the red and black everywhere.
"during the creation myth section, he describes a creator god, Illuvitar, first creating lesser Gods (angels), the Vanir, and together they cause all of creation and all of time to exist by singing in chorus. Each improvising around illuvitar. the stories tolkien then tells in his books about middle earth are supposed to be the stories written in those songs. "
Not much different from a lot of the Ancient Near East texts and creation myths, not to mention the Judeo-Christian version where it's the 'word' of God, God's breath and the wind of God creating.. Lots of angels around then ;)
Has anyone ever heard what one of our probes picked up from Saturn? Creepy. That's all I can say. Creepy.
I found a Promotional CD that NASA distributed, at a garage sale a few years ago. (I think it was from the late 70s / early 80s.)
Quasars, Pulsars, Bleeps, Blips, Squeaks, Squawks, and assorted unearthly tracks. I used to put it on at night and fall asleep to it. There was just something really comforting within the sounds.
Lot of good stuff here OH.
That was great Bkumm, thanks for sharing, i have been listening for the last hour.
I like the whale sounds too!!
Whale song is awesome!!! Remember the Star Trek movie where they had to go in the past to get whales that had to sing to a probe in the future!! I always thought that was so profound for Rodenberry to come up with that.
I remember that one EE, we are Trekies! lol
perhaps the space aliens at area 51 are attempting to contact their home planet by redirecting their ships communication area into the earth's core. the EM field being generated by the spinning magma in the middle of all the iron is creating a wave field that their signal is riding like a ship without a rudder. so it is spinning about in these cycles before heading out into space.
soon the Vogans will come for their lost citizens. perhaps 2012.
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Except for Melkor whose dissonant melodies, all brass trumpets and shouts which tried to down out the melody of the One only to be incorporated into it, were in opposition to Illuvitar.
I read the Hobbit first and then the Silmarillion before I read the rest of the Lord of the Rings. Best way to do it in my opinion.
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The Music of the Ainur is a wonderful creation myth. I'm a huge Tolkien fan. I read The Hobbit, then The Lord of the Rings, and then The Silmarillion. To me, that is probably the best order, if you are a younger reader (which I was...started The Hobbit in 3rd grade...LOTR in 4th grade...The Silmarillion in 6th grade).
I did Hobbit in about fourth grade, LOTR in fifth then I think I went ahead and did Silmarillion in fifth grade as well. All very good books, particularly the Silmarillion. Something about it is wonderful.
It's a great one. I read the Hobbit at 11 and then got into Andre Norton's Witch World series and Robert A. Heinlein's juveniles. I didn't read the Silmarillion until I was about 16. Then, I blasted through the Lord of the Rings. It's the only Fantasy I'll read, although I did read Terry Brooks' Shannara trilogy (the initial one). His is a little different but just on the other end. Tolkien's work is the history of the world before the world was bent and Brooks's work is the future history after the catastrophe of nuclear war.
Tolkien made and then broke the mold for Fantasy.
Try checking out Jordan's Wheel of Time if you haven't already. If you pay attention at the beginning you can see that it takes place thousands of years after our time period. It starts with lots of generic Tolkien references then it goes a completely different place with a unique world. Overall its one of the few things I've ever read in fantasy that even approaches Lord of the Rings. I like how the author didn't put in Elves or Orcs or things like that into it and how he explains away the "shadowspawn" of the world as genetically created at the height of human civilization 3000 years before the world was thrown into a massive dark age (alot of the magic in the series is derived from this time period, its science in alot of ways).
I'll check it out.