Science – Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming, the average temperature on Earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously.
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It might be a good time to go short on those carbon credits.
I am not talking about Gore or science, just plain common sense.
Do you believe that man has no impact on this earth.?
The KISS theory: Keep It Short and Sweet
Of course we do.
Then why argue, because as many experts that say one thing you will find as many that say another.
And next week they will either say they were wrong or flip flop.
As humans we make a mess, then lets clean it up....simple
So do we try to "clean up" C02 or encourage it's production?
Any idiot knows humans have an impact on Earth in a variety of ways. Having a significant impact on its climate is in question - particularly regarding CO2.
By all accounts, humans contribute at most 3-4 percent of total CO2 in the atmosphere. That means 96 to 97 percent of all CO2 occurs naturally. Some say that 3 to 4 percent could be beneficial. Some say not.
I say 3 to 4 percent won't do crap one way or another.
Well this idiot has worked for 40 years in the Canadian north.
And in that short time I have seen 25 years of cold winters, and in the last 15 years have seen winter to change to what we have now.
And you want to argue about CO2, go ahead but there is a he!! of a lot more to this problem than CO2, and it is all conected
I would think that lees cold winters would be a welcome thing in Canada.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I read a short time ago that a consensus of Canadian scientists said the tepemps were getting colder in Canada. I could be mistaken about this because I read a lot of stuff but I don't think so.
Temperature is misspelled in this comment as it's really hard to edit a comment that has other data in the same box.
"Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I read a short time ago that a consensus of Canadian scientists said the tepemps were getting colder in Canada."
Maybe, but I do know a cadre of 60 or so Canadian scientists petitioned their PM to rethink abiding by the Kyoto protocol based on the shoddy "science" behind it.
There's another petition of more than 19,000 scientists in the U.S. saying the IPCC is full of crap.
Right, 19,000 scientists including such notable scientists as Michael J. Fox, Perry Mason and one of the Spice Girls.
Why don't you get back to us when Canada does what it promised in the Kyoto Agreement. Instead of doing what you said,
"Canada's greenhouse-gas emissions rose 25 per cent between 1990 and 2005, the biggest percentage increase among G8 countries over the same time period, according to new Statistics Canada figures released Tuesday."
I guess the best way to stop would be to shut down our oil supply to you, as Alberta is the worst per capita.
Then what would you say,
I'd say that lots of well paying Canadian jobs just disappeared. But of course they wouldn't mind because it was so that the Chinese and Indians could keep going full speed ahead.
HUH ????you fall down the stairs and bang your 1 brain cell
bobo,
Canada will do just that when America does too.
Then why pretend and promise that you'll do something, by signing Kyoto, when you have no intention of doing so?
bobo,
That's a question you should ask Mr. Bush. He promised in 2000 to pursue it and put it before the Senate. It was the cornerstone of his environmental campaign vs Gore.
Bush also nominated Whitman for EPA Sec., allowed her to go to Trieste, Italy with that promise and when she came back he withdrew it.
That issue was prompted by Sen. Hagel in a letter to the administration, when he asked what the administration was going to do. A letter drafted in Veeps office, while Whitman was in Trieste, reneged on that promise. That was after Cheney held his secrete meeting with energy moguls. Gee, I wonder why?
noephile
How about Dr. William Grey of the Colorado State University. He is one of the top climatologists. He has the best ability at present to predict Hurricanes. Get real in what you say because a response like yours shows ignorance. There are a lot of scientists that find Gores movie horribly inaccurate.
"Right, 19,000 scientists including such notable scientists as Michael J. Fox, Perry Mason and one of the Spice Girls."
All of whom would be as qualified as Al Gore.
You and your moronic partner in crime, Aidenag, keep making those same baeless accusations, but neither of you ever actually shows any proof. Got a list of the petition names or even a source for your accusations? No?? Didn't think so.
Oh wipe your chin, Hannibullcrap. When you speak, drool dribbles down your face and creates a wet spot on your Salvation Army clothes.
Besides, you're boring all of us.
NUMPTY: yes you are right, intelligence would bore a fool such as you, but you still make me laugh LMAO
This article describes how the seemingly mild mannered Canadians are the most rapacious despoilers of the environment on the planet.
http://science.propeller.com/story/2008/04/22/c...
I ascribe this unexpected behaviour to a too long Canadian winter and an excess of pucks to the head.
Better than getting screwed in the left ear like you have been,mind you if a Canadian screwed you it would fu%k some sense into you...ROTFLMAO.
Never happen though as we have taste
Thanks for confirming my theory.
I asked you to keep the political and science out of it and just use your head, and you insult....now I insult back and you are going to cry???grow up
I guess that my language wasn't over the top enough to register on the humor scale.
I'll try harder in the future.
you are a funny as a toothache
yea hannibull and you show just how unintelligent and arrogant you canucks are,,canadians,,,another word for spineless jellyfish who refuse to accept anything they dont want to,,,i guess it must be the french in you guys
Go home to mommy little boy, the bads mans won't scare you then,,ROTFLMAO,
ive seen smarter heads of cabbage than you hannibull
A known simple solution to global warming is to stop the sun from expanding. OK, Gore, what's the answer?
"Well this idiot has worked for 40 years in the Canadian north."
And I lived through 41 northern winters, and this last one was a record-setting cold and snowy one.
That proves global warming. Don't you know anything proves it? LOL
im glad you admit youre an idiot hannibal,, its the first intelligent post ever by you,,now only if we can get the other 25 million of you countrymen to wake up to that fact
Well us idiots are managing to pay our national debt down, not triple it like you seem to think is intelligent thinking.
Insult me or my country all you like, but we have been called worse by better people than you will ever be....ROTFLMFAO...go hide behind mommy's skirt child !!LMAO
hiding behing the u.s. to protect your ass is the canadian way. let everyone else do the hard stuff, so your country can set on the fence. there is no better country than the u.s. hannifool. you can take the truth as an insult but its still the truth..yea all those homeless on the streets of toronto are really glad youre paying your debt down,,maybe you ought to learn to take care of your own before you go bit#hing about someone else....oh never mind thats the canadian way,,neglect your own, then act like they dont exist..at least i know my momma,,go hide behind your socialist state with your hand out,,that really makes you a man. i remember you now, youre the one toothed guy from the deliverance movie.. da di di di di di di di.
Just because your mommy called you son, it does not mean you are bright.
Show me a city in N.America without homeless.
And I am surprised that you spelled socialist right cause you sure don't know what it means.
LMAO....another moron
HannibalBarca,
>>there is a he!! of a lot more to this problem than CO2, and it is all conected
You're right. The NASA Climatologist that the Bush administration tried to silence - James Hansen, IIRC - is highly upset w/this admin for trying to silence him.
He's ALSO upset w/the CLINTON admin because THAT admin tried to get him to downplay many other factors in global warming & tried to get him to push the CO2 connection exclusively.
You can read an interview w/him on http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/21/censoring...
That's where I heard him say:
"I wrote a paper called "Global Warming in the 21st Century: An Alternative Scenario," in which I emphasized that it's not only carbon dioxide, but other climate forcingsâ;;methane and black sootâ;;and we need to address those also. And for some reason, the people in the White House didn't like emphasis on the non-CO2 parts of the story...."
LOL
That article about the book claims that the global warming was started by him. The actual fact is that the "greenhouse effect" has been talked about since the 1820's. Never been proved and it was assumed that the earth was kept 33% warmer because of it. Then in the 1990's we find that the earth and moon have the same average temperature. So I guess we send that stuff to go around the moon as well. What a theory.
The talk about censoring is real though. Many scientists have had projects shut down for saying man was not causing a significant problem with the temperature.
>>Then in the 1990's we find that the earth and moon have the same average temperature. So I guess we send that stuff to go around the moon as well.
What, exactly, does this have to do w/anything? Would you REALLY want the extremes in temps that are occurring on the moon?
Here, in the DC area, we've had numerous moderate winters. Where we used to have weeks at subfreezing temps, many in the single digits (Fahrenheit, that is). Lately, we've been "lucky" if we've had a TOTAL of a couple of weeks in the single digits. This year had 1 snow that melted w/in 1-1/2 days, & 2 ice storms that were gone in less than 2 days as well. I never had to pull out my shovel - & this in an area where I used to get snowed in at least twice a winter.
I'll use the KISS method.
1. Average temperature over the globe for a year is what global warming is all about. not the temperature at any point at any time.
2. If the average temperature of the earth and moon (without atmosphere) is the same then the only thing doing that is the sun not anything in the atmosphere.
Simple enough.
If it's all the sun, then please explain to us all exactly why Venus is about 300degF HOTTER than Mercury when it's almost twice as far from the Sun as Mercury.
No, we contribute to .05% - that's five one hundreths of one percent. (out of the roughly .05% - that's also five one hundreths of one percent - of the atmosphere that is CO2, of which 95% is produced by water vapor).
Watch this movie:
The Truth About Climate Change: http://tinyurl.com/3xeokp
Now my question. What has the most impact on climate, the sun or the actions of humans?
Keep It Short and Sweet
ditto
Scientific Background:
The roots of the CLOUD experiment can be traced as far back as two centuries, when the British Astronomer Royal, William Herschel, noticed a correlation between sunspots and the price of wheat in England. This marked the first observation that Earth's climate may be affected by variations of the Sun. However solar-climate variability has remained a great puzzle since that time, despite an intensive scientific effort. The well-known Little Ice Age around the 17th and 18th centuries - when sunspots all but disappeared for 70 years, the cosmic ray flux increased and the climate cooled - seems to be merely the latest of around a dozen similar events over the last ten thousand years. http://press.web.cern.ch/Press/PressReleases/Re...
Coral Climate Legend #1 "Climate change is happening but is caused by solar variations beyond human control."
Climate Scientist Response: "The modeled effects of natural phenomena such as variations in solar intensity or volcanic emissions are unable to explain the steady rise in temperature over the last 40 years. The cooling of the stratosphere (the part of the atmosphere between 10 and 20 km from the surface) that has accompanied the recent warming of the surface is a 'fingerprint' of the effects of an increase in greenhouse gas concentrations. If warming were caused by an increase in solar radiation, warming of both the stratosphere as well as the lower atmosphere and surface would be expected, which is not what has been observed."
http://www.climate.org/2002/topics/climate/debu...
That is a funny site. They are obviously Goreabites. I like the expanded scale of temperature that doesn't include last year. Show that with an expanded scale for this past decade will you. Flat with a small downturn.
Oh, and how about including this year?
Ya know, the record high global temperatures...
http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2...
Why are you still living in 2007?
If you look really really carefully, you can see a tiny *red* line which indicates 2008, the year of our Lord.