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A computer model developed by the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute estimates that by the end of the century, high temperatures for once-in-a-generation heat waves will rise twice as fast as everyday average temperatures. Chicago, for example, would reach 115 degrees in such an event by 2100. Paris heat waves could near 109 with Lyon, France, coming closer to 114.

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walden32 months ago

Even if the projections are wrong, even if the average temps stay the same, as the days of cheap heating and cooling are gone lots of folks won't be able to afford the AC that they have grown so accustomed to. Areas in the southeast and southwest are going to experience population shifts.
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  Locky122 months ago
  
  Dude! It's going to be the year 2100 for cryin' out loud!
  We'll probably have the whole eclectic of wind, solar, nuclear power. Heck, we may even have found a way to burn coal clean by then!
  Have some optimism. It's 90 friggin years away!
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    walden32 months ago
    
    What do you think of the long term viability of the tens of thousands (maybe millions?) of folks moving to the hot, dry desert? I don't much have faith in their ability to find water or pay to cool themselves over the long-term. Sorry, but if you live in Nevada you shouldn't have a pool and lawn.
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    Beau78902 months ago
    
    Yes, the models are predicting temperatures during heat waves in 2100. But if heat waves even get part way to what they're predicting within a few decades, there'll be serious trouble.
    The article says the model predicted heat waves in Chicago could reach 115 degrees. Let's say they get to 110 sooner, or even 105.
    In 1995, we had three days straight of 100 to 105 degrees in Chicago, and over 700 people died.
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    Bluedragon9122 months ago
    
    "Probably" is not affirmative. What makes you think that all of a sudden people are going to go along with alternatives? Think of how long we've been on oil. Most people don't like change.
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      Locky122 months ago
      
      Were you alive in the 80's or 90's?
      How'd you get by without a cellphone? Internet access?
      You're talking about something that's 90 years away, my friend. You and I will be taking dirt naps.
      90 years from now? We can only imagine what life will be like then!
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DropkickaLib2 months ago

L.A. is in an area that naturally is a desert. This is true to an even greater extent of Phoenix and Vegas. Some large cities are simply located in stupid and unsustainable locations.
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    antibrainwasher2 months ago
    
    Agreed, unless they can use desalinization of seawater run by solar power or nuclear or geothermal power, LA and LV are not viable.
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      DropkickaLib2 months ago
      
      That's what the Saudis use in their cities, desalinized water that is.
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        miklkit2 months ago
        
        I would love to build you a desalination plant . Bring'em on! I'm not being facetious. We need them!
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        tkyrchncs2 months ago
        
        I vacationed in the Canary Islands where all the tap water is desalinated, but the locals would not drink it (at least, not often) and a bottle of wine (or imported water) comes automatically with dinner, whatever restaurant you choose. These islands are volcanic, with no surface streams and and only very occasional subtropical deluges, certainly incapable on dealing on their own natural resources with the huge volume of tourism.
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  libsRfunny2 months ago
  
  Actually, Vegas is quite sustainable. We have one of the largest freshwater reservoirs in the world and the power generation of the Hoover Dam to keep our AC units running in perpetuity.
  The grass is gone, but I never liked mowing lawns, anyway.
  As for this story ... it's based yet again on computer models. Computer models are no more reliable than the human info inputed and how humans programmed them to crunch numbers. In other words, unreliable and inconsistent.
  
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    DropkickaLib2 months ago
    
    In all fairness, I have heard that the aquifer there is declining in volume and the drain the city presents on neighboring states' water supplies is not sustainable.
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      libsRfunny2 months ago
      
      Well, I do go swimming there on a fairly regular basis. Plenty of water in it. And supplies will be up this year after the long, cold winter with above average snowfall in the Rockies. When the Rockies get a lot of snow, the Colorado gets more melt off.
      There is a water conservation movement to get rid of lawns and use only water-friendly landscaping. I'm not so sure the water drain here is any worse than in California or any of the other states out west with water shortages.
      Having just moved here from the Great Lakes states, I know there was a big problem with water diversion efforts. But, even in states like Michigan, there is a problem of water shortages from irrigation and other uses.
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        DropkickaLib2 months ago
        
        The problem with Vegas is particularly serious since California is also tapping the Colorado River for L.A. and agricultural uses.
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        libsRfunny2 months ago
        
        The Colorado still flows. It just doesn't flood and destroy crops and homes like it used to. And, Mexico does get a benefit.
        http://www.usbr.gov/dataweb/html/bcphoover.html
        "The project assures a dependable water supply for irrigating more than one million acres of land in southern California and southwestern Arizona, and over 400,000 acres in Mexico. These irrigated lands supply large amounts of produce and other agricultural products for the Nation's markets."
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        miklkit2 months ago
        
        When the Colorado River gets to the Gulf it is a sewer line that is so polluted that human bodies dropped into it disintegrate. Viva Las Vegas!
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    amazed2 months ago
    
    You have one of the largest freshwater reservoirs because of the Hoover Dam. The Colorado River, however, runs out of water before it gets to the Rio Grande or the Gulf of Mexico or where ever it was that it used to empty into.
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  saintetienne2 months ago
  
  "Some large cities are simply located in stupid and unsustainable locations."
  Can't agree with you there, Drop. Los Angeles is located in the most beautiful spot in North America. I love it and I ain't leavin' it. We're right next to the Pacific, so desalinization is an option, once we suck all the water out of Mono Lake.
  Gotta go.... my lawn needs watering!
  
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    DropkickaLib2 months ago
    
    L.A. is beautiful...must have been some serious clean up since I was there in the 90s. Desalinization is extremely expensive and the city can't keep draining the Colorado River along with the agricultural areas of California.
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jimdoze2 months ago

When the temps in France spike, as they did in 2003, their air conditioners are powered primarily by electricity generated from nuclear fission reactors. Therefore, they are not exacerbating the problem by seeking relief from it.
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  simonsez2 months ago
  
  I thought the French problem was a lack of air conditioners.
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    rwrnae2 months ago
    
    No, mostly a lack of deodorant and soap.....
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1-2-Oscar2 months ago

GIGO
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  miklkit2 months ago
  
  Yuppers.
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simonsez2 months ago

Anyone who tells you what the weather will be like in 2100 anywhere in the world is a dipstick. I hope there is nobody paying money for this intelligence.
I will predict Georgia will still be hot in the summertime in 2100, but I won't charge you for that info.
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  HannibalBarca2 months ago
  
  And I predict that when the sun goes down, it will get dark...lol
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